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Hey editor! Just wanted to see if you can change the photo of this page to a more of an actual Indian Warrior instead of a cartoon. It would be much appreciated as people would be able to understand the significance of kshatriyas better with an actual decent photograph. Jai Hind Dharmsanrakshak (talk) 13:03, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. – Recoil (talk) 15:05, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

change cover page picture from cartoon to actual indian kshatriya 132.147.113.197 (talk) 10:03, 27 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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I would like to add a new section on how the Khatri caste is related to the Kshatriyas. I think that this would be a helpful addition to the article. Usingh0663 (talk) 14:14, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:17, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I will be adding a section as so

Heading: Khatris and Kshatriyas

Text: According to Shyamasundara Dasa's abdasgara Lexicon, the Hindi word khatri derives from the Sanskrit word kshatriya. Philologists, according to B. N. Puri, agree that the terms "Khatri" and "Kshatriya" are synonymous. According to the grammarian Vararuchi, the Sanskrit conjunct Ksha (क्ष) becomes the Prakrit Kha (ख). This change is accepted not only in Prakrit, but in all Indian vernaculars derived from it, including Gujarati, Urdu, Gurumukhi, and Persian. The shift from Kshatriya to Khatri is consistent with Prakrit and Hindi usage. Scholars R. G. Bhandarkar and Shapurji Edulji both testify to this. According to historians W. H. McLeod and Louis Fenech, Khatri is a Punjabi word for Kshatriya. A. R. Desai and Peter Hardy both agree that Khatri is derived from Kshatriya. Despite the etymology, Hardy says that Khatri is "a mercantile class" and Desai says the Khatris were "traditionally tradesmen and government officials". According to Dr. Dharamvir Bharati, Kshatriya is pronounced Khatri in Punjabi. "Khatri appears to be unquestionably a Prakritised form of the Sanskrit word Kshatriya," write Dr. GS Mansukhani and RC Dogra. According to philologist Ralph Lilley Turner, the Punjabi word "khattrī", meaning "warrior", derives from Sanskrit "kṣatriya", whereas the Gujarati word "khātrī", meaning "a caste of Hindu weavers", derives from Sanskrit "kṣattr̥", meaning "carver, distributor".

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Dasa, Syamasundara (1965–1975). "Hindi sabdasagara". dsal.uchicago.edu. Retrieved 19 November 2020.

Puri, Baij Nath (1988). The Khatris, a Socio-cultural Study. M.N. Publishers and Distributors. pp. 7–8.

Fenech, Louis E.; McLeod, W. H. (11 June 2014). Historical Dictionary of Sikhism. Rowman & Littlefield. ISBN 978-1-4422-3601-1.

Desai, A. R. (1975). State and Society in India. Popular Prakashan. pp. 539–540. ISBN 978-81-7154-013-6. Nanak was probably of a khatri jati, traditionally tradesmen and government officials in the Punjab, though the name Khatri is from the word Kshatriya. The nine Sikh gurus who came after him were certainly Khatris

Hardy; Hardy, Thomas (7 December 1972). The Muslims of British India. CUP Archive. p. 279. ISBN 978-0-521-09783-3.

Turner, Ralph Lilley (1985). A Comparative Dictionary of the Indo-Aryan Languages. School of Oriental and African Studies, University of London. p. 189.

Dalit Chintan ka Vikas Abhishapt Chintan se Itihas (in Hindi). Vani Prakashan. p. 243. Usingh0663 (talk) 14:30, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

|answered= please view the response above. Usingh0663 (talk) 15:09, 16 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This content would fit better on Khatri. This page is for the Kshatriya varna as a whole. Chariotrider555 (talk) 19:04, 16 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Alright. Thanks for the feedback. Usingh0663 (talk) 12:32, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Kshatriya does not mean king, Kshatriya is a religious caste. Everyone can become a king! That's why don't associate Kshatriya jati with the word Rajanya

Sanatan dharm 103.206.177.82 (talk) 09:58, 29 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Early Rigvedic tribal monarchy section: “The administrative machinery in the Vedic India was headed by a tribal king called Rajan whose position may or may not have been hereditary.”

In my opinion “tribal king called Rajan” makes it sound as though it was simply one guy named Rajan, not a title. I suggest this be changed to:

“tribal king called a Rajan” or “tribal king called the Rajan”.

Thank you 2A00:23C6:95CE:B401:609A:DB6:DAB2:FDEC (talk) 15:02, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done Tollens (talk) 01:07, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Reason: As vandalism has been stopped, the page no longer requires protection. Nevertheless, it lacks enough information and facts about Kshatriyas. At present, there is a scarcity of content on this subject. Removing the page protection would allow editors to add more useful information. Alex Cupper (talk) 02:45, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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