Talk:Woodbury matrix identity
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Intro
[edit]This article should begin by explaining what the Woodbury matrix identity is in general terms (what do C, U, V represent?), and what it is useful for. -- Tarquin 12:13, 14 Jan 2004 (UTC)
Done! Is this complete? -- Martin Vermeer Done
Minus sign
[edit]Corrected a creeping minus sign -- ofer Aug 30 2004 Done
What if ?
[edit]What if (for : )? --RainerBlome 22:07, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
Fonts
[edit]The correct mathematical fonts should be used. For example: A matrix should be represented by and not A. Done
Alternative formulation
[edit]For discussion, is the following
in the first place correct and second a more readable format of the theorem. Faust o 18:57, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
- It is correct if the right-hand side is interpreted as
- I'm pretty sure it is not correct if the right-hand side is interpreted as
- or as
- Since it is not clear how to interpret the right-hand side in your formulation of the theorem, I would say that it is not more readable. -- Jitse Niesen (talk) 19:08, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
- Good point, I agree to that. The form I suggested was stated in an engineering text book.Faust o 20:09, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
- Done
The point?
[edit]Why would anyone assume that inverting the matrix , as required by the formula, is any easier than inverting the original matrix?
Nevermind. is supposed to have lower dimension than . Got it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.250.74.157 (talk) 04:14, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
- The identity holds even if C is higher dimension than A, but from practical point of view, the intention is to have C smaller, because then it is more efficient to invert C, and to invert A directly. Such situation occurs frequently in real life application.
- Done
Merge with article on Binomial inverse theorem?
[edit]This one is a no brainer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.100.76.127 (talk) 13:47, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
- I think the Binomial inverse theorem article should be merged in here, because this article has more traffic: 12,435 vs. 2,493 views in the last 90 days. DavidMCEddy (talk) 17:51, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
Is C useful?
[edit]Is a non-identity C matrix actually useful? It seems like C could easily be absorbed into the U or V matrices. This has the benefit of trivializing the computation of --Mborg (talk) 23:35, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
History?
[edit]This looks like not too complex and natural extension of very well known Sherman-Morrison formula. Did Sherman or Morrison were aware of this? I did find a prior for this result: W.J. Duncan, “Some devices for the solution of large sets of simultaneous equations (with an appendix on the reciprocation of partitioned matrices)”, The London, Edinburgh and Dublin Philosophical Magazine and Journal of Science, Seventh Series, 35, p. 660, (1944).[1] I did found it as https://doi.org/10.1080/14786444408520897 . This was cited in https://arxiv.org/abs/1803.10405v1 / https://arxiv.org/pdf/1803.10405.pdf , which is reprint/reedit on arxiv from "A Sherman-Morrison-Woodbury Identity for Rank Augmenting Matrices with Application to Centering", Kurt S. Riedel, which originally appeared in SIAM J. MAT.ANAL. Vol. 12, No. 1, pp. 80–95, January 1991; and in SIAM Journal on Numerical Analysis Vol. 31, No. 4 (Aug., 1994), pp. 1219-1225.[2] I believe this is https://doi.org/10.1137/0613040 , This is the same journal where in 1989, the other paper appeared: W.W. Hager, “Updating the inverse of a matrix”, SIAM Review, 31, p.221, (1989); that focused on the Woodbury identity.[3] https://doi.org/10.1137/1031049 Also there is Bartlett's identity (~1951?), which does have similarities. Professor Duncan even in the abstract of his paper from 1944, states that the method is not new in principle, but he simply made a new clean and general formulation. Considering that Sherman-Morrison published their papers on their results in 1949 and 1950, it would be worth exploring the history more, as their results were apparently not novel. Looking at the citations in their paper, there is no mention or citations of even closely similar methods, indicating possibly they were not aware of any previous results in this area. Some other earlier papers to check - https://www.jstor.org/stable/2235999 [4] , as they do have many useful methods and additional references.
2A02:168:F609:0:93EE:57FD:B2FA:71FB (talk) 13:13, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
References
- ^ Duncan, W.J. (2009). "LXXVIII. Some devices for the solution of large sets of simultaneous linear equations". The London, Edinburgh, and Dublin Philosophical Magazine and Journal of Science. 35 (249): 660–670. doi:10.1080/14786444408520897. ISSN 1941-5982.
- ^ Riedel, Kurt S. (1992). "A Sherman–Morrison–Woodbury Identity for Rank Augmenting Matrices with Application to Centering". SIAM Journal on Matrix Analysis and Applications. 13 (2): 659–662. doi:10.1137/0613040. ISSN 0895-4798.
- ^ Hager, William W. (1989). "Updating the Inverse of a Matrix". SIAM Review. 31 (2): 221–239. doi:10.1137/1031049. ISSN 0036-1445.
- ^ Hotelling, Harold (1943). "Some New Methods in Matrix Calculation". The Annals of Mathematical Statistics. 14 (1): 1–34. doi:10.1214/aoms/1177731489. ISSN 0003-4851.
Dubious claim regarding numerical accuracy
[edit]This claim in the introduction does not seem to be sufficiently well cited (the citation points to a Stack Overflow question):
"The Woodbury matrix identity allows cheap computation of inverses and solutions to linear equations. However, little is known about the numerical stability of the formula. There are no published results concerning its error bounds.[citation needed] Anecdotal evidence suggests that it may diverge even for seemingly benign examples (when both the original and modified matrices are well-conditioned)."
I think it should be removed. The-erinaceous-one (talk) 09:28, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
Why so negative
[edit]I think this article is inappropriately negative. The formula (and the Sherman-Morrison-Woodbury) are heavily used. I agree with @The-erinaceous-one that it seems very dubious. Ldm1954 (talk) 06:19, 15 April 2024 (UTC)