Talk:Gascon dialect

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What about including names of each variant in Occitan ortography? Those names are not: Aranès is in Catalan, and Ariegeois and the others are in French.

Petit

Isn't "little" pichon in Occitan? Is it different in Gascon? --Error 21:45, 5 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In Gascon you can say petit = pichon = pichòt, see Palay's dictionary.--Aubadaurada 23:45, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Quite striking ...

It really strikes me how the Gascon pichòt little is so similar to the Sicilian piciottu child. Is it possible that any Catalonians who colonized Sicily could've spoken Gascon? Just to see if anyone out there knows of anything. Il Studioso 04:29, 1 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Gaskoo?

The bizarre mispronunciation of Gascon was added by User:Kieron a m in June 2006.
Can someone fully conversant in IPA please replace his flight of fancy with the English pronunciation of Gascon?
K-schwa-N, give or take.
Thanks, Varlaam (talk) 20:57, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Move from "language" to "dialect"

I want to note that, after having moved this page from "Gascon language" to the current "Gascon dialect", I wanted to change some links in relevant articles for this page and saw information backing, with academic sources, why Gascon may be considered different from Occitan. I am not an expert on linguistics and much less on Occitan, maybe Gascon should indeed be considered different on Wikipedia, but I think that should be decided through a formal RM and not through a mere move without an edit summary, which is how this article got titled as a language [1]. After all, historically, that Gascon was not an Occitan dialect has been the "fringe" view, and a change to make such a view to make the main one would require more discussion than simply preserving the traditional view. All in all, I believe this move has been positive before anything else and I hope it may bring discussion in this talk page in the case my actions are disputed. Super Ψ Dro 20:50, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Super Dromaeosaurus: However, if there's now a genuine controversy among experts if Gascon is to be classified as a mere "dialect" of Occitan or as a separate language, and not a strong consensus either way (you imply that the separate-language view is no longer "fringe"), the article title should be neutral (WP:NPOVTITLE) and not take any sides in that debate. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 02:36, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

hi, I agree with Florian. Personally I hear more and more (e.g. in Chambon [fr]'s papers, among others) that Gascon is a romance language of its own; and the "Gascon dialect" title shows a bias against that (now well-established) view. -- Womtelo (talk) 07:10, 21 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Hello. Please propose a WP:RM for your preferred title. Whether a dialect is actually a language or viceversa is definitively the type of controversial issue that should be decided on through formal processes. Super Ψ Dro 09:55, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]