Talk:Mike Shinoda

Shinoda's cousin

An IP has repeatdly attempted to add unsourced content to Shinoda's page claiming, "He has a cousin named Yuki Nishimura". Even if sourced, is it notable enough to include? Yuki Nishimura doesn't seem significant in any way. Meatsgains (talk) 22:19, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

Agreed. Mlpearc (open channel) 22:29, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

I think it's vandalism at this point. Both Mlpearc and I have issued the anon warnings, and the yet he/she has persisted on adding the content to this article. If it continues, I'll request page protection or open a case at WP:ANI --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  00:25, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

I have a request at WP:RPP. Mlpearc (open channel) 00:55, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

Thank you. I was going to suggest a page protection if the IP attempted to restore the content one more time. Meatsgains (talk) 02:16, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

@Peacemaker67: ^ ^ Mlpearc (open channel) 02:22, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

Filmography Section

I am a bit confused as to what content should actually be included in the filmography section. Mike Shinoda is not an actor by trade, and does not really make cameos like movies like Chester Bennington. Some of the items in the filmography section are 30-minute promotional or bonus content created by Linkin Park to ship alongside with albums.

• The Making of Meteora
• The Making of Minutes to Midnight
• The Meeting of a Thousand Suns
• Inside Living Things

I feel these items should be excluded from the list given they are just promotional videos. Other things are omitted from this list, like Breaking the Habit (video album), a short 20-minute documentary about the creation of self-named song and Live in Texas, a 70 minute DVD about of a live performance. Either way, a filmography section would be more appropriate if Shinoda was an active actor, director, or video producer. --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  02:07, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

I actually feel like that section doesn't belong there at all if LP contributions are ALL his filmography consists of. dannymusiceditor ^{Speak up!} 15:17, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

I agree with you on this. This section should really belong in somewhere like Linkin Park discography, since every item is related to the band. --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  20:45, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

Agree, remove entire section, add to Linkin Park discography if it must be included. - Mlpearc (open channel) 20:58, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

Instruments

He is Linkin Park's Keyboardist, rhythmic guitarist, and he can use the synthesizer.Nbagigafreak (talk) 00:06, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

The infobox is usually reserved for the instruments the subject is best known or notable for playing. However I believe rhythm guitar and keyboard should be included as he is credited on almost every album for those instruments. --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  01:17, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

I agree! C'mon already guys! He's been known since the Hybrid Theory tour to be an actively performing keyboardist, and that was in the year 2000. He's also played rhythm guitar live with significant increase since the Minutes to Midnight World Tour in 2007, to the point where he now plays guitar live on songs that he didn't in years gone by. Not to mention he also has several custom ESP guitars. In closing, I think it's actually misleading to exclude the information. Especially since he can be heard and seen playing guitar and keyboards on every official live video release - from Live in Texas to The Hunting Party Live. 121.99.81.135 (talk) 10:00, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Associated acts

Does anyone know why the associated acts is an unknown parameter on this page? Chester Bennington's article uses the same type of infobox and the parameter works fine on that article. I've been trying to figure this out for a while now and I can't. Bowling is life (talk) 01:29, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

Instruments

@FlightTime Phone: I don't understand why you are removing piano, sampling, and keyboards. He credited for playing these on his album Post Traumatic and with Linkin Park. These have been listed for a long time so I don't understand why you are removing them. Also pinging @StarScream1007:. Bowling is life (talk) 22:16, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

@Bowling is life: Primary instruments are the ones the artist is best known for throughout their career. Shinoda is best known as a vocalist and guitarist. I am in no way saying that he doesn't play the secondary instruments, example; Eddie Van Halen, Tommy Lee and Prince all play keyboards, but none of them are considered primarily keyboardist, are they ? According to Template:Infobox musical artist#instrument only instruments the artist is widely known for are listed in the infobox, not every instruments they've ever touched "Instruments listed in the infobox should be limited to only those that the artist is primarily known for using. The instruments infobox parameter is not intended as a WP:COATRACK for every instrument the subject has ever used.". That's how I interpret the guideline, but I don't think we've ever agreed on anything. Happy editing. - FlightTime Phone (open channel) 22:35, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

I feel Shinoda is recognizable for his role on keyboard and sampling with Linkin Park and his other musical projects, however this comes more in line as a producer. He’s well-known for creating samples and backing tracks for songs with a keyboard for studio sessions. He rarely plays keyboards during live performances. I’m thus 50/50 on the issue. As someone who is familiar with the subject, I see Shinoda as a guitarist, keyboardist, samplist, and vocalist. However, I’m not sure how someone is not familiar with the Linkin Park or Shinoda would treat these roles. Maybe it should be left in the infobox, but I’m 50/50 on the topic. I’m usually inclined to side with WP:COATRACK and the actual template guidelines on these matters, but Shinoda’s work as a producer should not be undervalued. --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  23:06, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

A sentence in the introduction seems ambiguous to me

This sentence is: "He co-founded the rock band Linkin Park in 1996 and was the band's collaborative vocalist while Chester Bennington was lead vocalist, as well as rhythm guitarist, keyboardist, primary songwriter and producer.". Does that mean, that Mike Shinoda is collaborative vocalist, rhythm guitarist, keyboardist, primary songwriter and producer? Or does that mean, that Mike Shinoda is collaborative vocalist and Chester Bennington was lead vocalist, as well as rhythm guitarist, keyboardist, primary songwriter and producer? If Mike Shinoda is primary songwriter and producer, the sentence should be: "He co-founded the rock band Linkin Park in 1996 and was the band's collaborative vocalist (while Chester Bennington was lead vocalist), as well as rhythm guitarist, keyboardist, primary songwriter and producer.". (with the brackets) This way it would be distinct. Thomas Limberg 1986 (talk) 15:50, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

Your first guess is correct. The portion in the bracket should be omitted, as Chester's involvement in the band is later discussed a few sentences later. The tense should also be "is" as the Linkin Park has yet to officially disband or announce any personnel changes. --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  18:18, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

"Your first guess is correct." --> Thanks for the info!

Have fun! Thomas Limberg 1986 (talk) 18:25, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

Np. Thank you for the suggestion. --  StarScream1007  ►Talk  18:48, 3 September 2023 (UTC)