Talk:Louder Than Bombs

A fact from Louder Than Bombs appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 6 October 2004. The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the album Louder Than Bombs by The Smiths consisted of all singles and B-sides that hadn't been released before in the United States?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2004/October.

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Proposed move

I suggest that the page namespace should be "Louder Than Bombs". The quotation marks are typographically and semantically part of the album's title, and should be included. Any objections? Sindinero (talk) 13:47, 8 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 21:06, 26 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"Louder Than Bombs" → Louder Than Bombs – This isn't the only Smiths (nor Morrissey, for that matter) album with the title between inverted commas on the cover, it'll be a bit daft to move each article. Correct me if I'm wrong but unlike David Bowie's "Heroes", I don't think the marks signify anything here other than making the title stand out. VEO^onefive 18:38, 19 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

They may or may not signify, but the fact is that they're there, and I think this is important. It is generally quite rare for titles -- of albums, books, or other artworks -- to incorporate quotation marks, and looking at the cover art of albums by The Smiths in particular, it seems that only a minority do so. I'm not sure what, if anything, it signifies, but the fact remains that the quotation marks are on the album cover as part of the title. I don't think it's our place as WP editors to interpret the significance of the quotation marks, but their inclusion in the album title does represent an editorial and/or creative decision that went into the making, packaging, and marketing of the album. I suggest we leave it here and not redirect. Sindinero (talk) 13:54, 20 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If we're leaving this one at "Louder Than Bombs", shouldn't we also more Strangeways, Here We Come to "Strangeways, Here We Come", Rank (album) to "Rank" (album), Hatful of Hollow to "Hatful of Hollow", and Singles (The Smiths album) to "Singles" (The Smiths album)? To be clear, I'm just going by lettering on the album covers here. —Flax5 14:06, 20 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support move. I agree that it seems like stylization for its own sake, and doesn't actually signify anything. I don't see any other only sources listing it with the quotation marks either. We could just add a parenthetical in the lead, e.g.: 'Louder Than Bombs (stylized as "Louder Than Bombs"), is a compilation album...' —Torchiest ^talk_edits 14:12, 20 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support - and please add any similar that need fixing. In ictu oculi (talk) 01:37, 21 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Seems I'm alone on this one. I still think the typographic choices of the original albums should be respected in our titling practice, but I'm happy to cede the point if others feel otherwise, since I haven't been able to find any information about why these particular albums were given quotation marks. I do like Torchiest's suggestion of a parenthetical in the lead, though. Sindinero (talk) 01:47, 21 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support precisely as Torchiest recommended. Especially given that we have no RS that says it does have some special significance. Even if it did, we might not bow to it, per MOS:TM and WP:COMMONNAME vs. WP:OFFICIALNAME. — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼ 10:29, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support per SMcCandlish's logic regarding MOS:TM and WP:COMMONNAME. — sparklism ^hey! 15:25, 25 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Support, no one wil be doing air quotes when they name the album when talking about it. Torquemama007 (talk) 17:54, 25 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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