Talk:Eurythmics

Tourist LPs

Back in 1984 I got my hands on some Tourist LPs. I thought maybe they'd be worth something someday. I think they are still lying around at my parents house. I haven't heard the records since then. As I remember, the songs were quite forgettable. They did a cover of a 60s pop song. Kingturtle 07:56 Apr 12, 2003 (UTC)

Name

Just a note that the group's name definitively does not have a "The" in it. Please do not refer to them as "The Eurythmics". -- Bonalaw 09:46, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)

that's not part of their name, it's a lower case the. say "my favorite band is eurythmics" out loud and see if it makes sense. Joeyramoney 17:59, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Only if you'll say "My favourite band is the Depeche Mode" afterwards ;-) --feline1 11:27, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

I agree with Bonalaw on this one. A name really doesn't require any articles, unless it's taken in the name or unless it indicates something. The Jonas Brothers, for example, are actual brothers... Eurythmics, however, aren't quite "the art of interpreting musical compositions by rhythmical, free-style bodily movement" (source:http://www.answers.com/topic/eurythmics). I think that definition would suit Kate Bush more than Annie and Dave ;) Thyoberion (talk) 17:29, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Meaning of name

It would be good if someone more versed than me in it would introduce the definition of what the word eurythmics means: ie it is a method for teaching music invented in Geneva around 1905 that was/is quite successful. ie check out http://www.dalcroze.ch/html/fr/ensaemil.htm

Compare: Eurythmy Regards Konrad B

Sexcrime ban

The single for "Sexcrime" wasn't 'banned' in the United States, as the article states. There was a US-issued single, RCA PB-13956, which some radio stations refused to play. There was a subsequent US-issued single (Julia), RCA PB-14015, which contained an edited version of the original track on the b-side(and which some radio stations still refused to play.) I'll be editing the article to correct this. -- Heath 24.197.25.238 12:25, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

It is my suspicion that the poor performance of 1984 had more to do with litigation between the various parties and less to do with US airplay. The album was "cutout" during it's initial distribution, indicating inside issues at the label (forced withdrawel from the market). Everyone I knew who owned this vinyl album had a cutout version. I also recall Lennox stating that they had been dissatisfied and were suing Virgin over ownership of the masters (for breach of contract).

About Savage

I have reverted this evening's edits. Savage (and particularly the singles from it) did NOT sell well in the UK, compared to the huge success the band had enjoyed from the "Sweet Dreams" single through to Revenge - for Savage they turned "sharp left" and languished as yesterday's band, while the charts were full of Stock Aiken and Waterman. The synths are NOT loud in the mix. You can tell this by using your ears. (Compare the level of the synth bass in "Beethoven" to that of "The Walk" or "Sweet Dreams" for instance.) And most of the videos *do* trace Lennox's character from being a psychotic housewife to some crazy drag act. You can tell this by watching them. --feline1 23:20, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

• It didn't sell very well in the USA, either. And the review in the Trouser Press Record Guide absolutely reams this album. Two Halves, who prefers "For The Love of Big Brother"

The reason that Savage did not sell well was because it was a stripped back affair that harked back to their earlier work and was not full of the shiny overly produced work of albums like 'Revenge'. The public were confused by this album. However, one single 'You have placed a chill in my heart' was a substantial UK hit, although RCA / BMG had to over market the single by releasing a CD single version in a limited numbered tin carton. On reflection and reappraisal the 'Savage' album was actualy very very good in my opinion.

Aye, well, I like it too. But "Chill" barely scraped the top 20.--feline1 22:52, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

• Actually, Savage did sell well in the UK (and was awarded platinum status by the BPI for sales of 300,000) - it just didn't sell as well as BYT, Revenge, or WTAO which all acheived at least double platinum status in the UK. Savage was a top 10 album in the UK (peaking at #7). Touch also received single Platinum status, even though that reached #1 in the UK. As for the Savage singles, three of them were top 30 (with Shame just peaking at #41) and "Chill" peaked at 16, which is hardly 'scraping in'. I think that use of language is important here...to say "Savage did not sell well in the UK" is actually false, but to say it simply didn't sell as much as some of their other albums would be an accurate reflection. MassassiUK 16:01, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

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According to the notes, "Peace is Just a Word" "was not eligible to chart due to the fact that the day before the official release date, a CD single of the title track with aditional songs and CD-rom videos was freely offered with the UK edition of the Sunday Times". This wouldn't make it ineligible to chart. It may indeed have been ineligible, but if so it wasn't for this reason. --Bonalaw 09:33, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Eurythmics and the Simpsons

I'm not sure of the notability of this section, which was recently added. Many, many songs and artists have been used in The Simpsons. The inclusion of a few Eurythmics tracks doesn't really hold special significance as far as I can see. -- eo 20:17, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

I agree. An appearance on The Simpsons is worthy of note - simply having a few bars of some of their songs play in an episode or two is not even close to being worthy enough to be included here. 203.23.122.202 00:39, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

I am going to delete the section - it is meaningless. I can see mentioning a sentence or two about Eurythmics music being used "in various X, Y or Z series, including the Simpsons" but an entire section about it adds nothing to this article. -- eo 16:55, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Kiss the Rain

Does anyone know if Kiss the Rain is Annie Lennox or Eurythmics? On which album does this song appear? Thanks, JC

It's Billie Myers. - eo 01:24, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you so much!

it's "the eurythmics"

whether or not "the" is included on their album covers is irrelevant, because the bands' de facto name is the eurythmics. you don't just say "i really like eurythmics". you'll always say a the before their name. that's just common sense. 67.172.61.222 05:25, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Er, rubbish. The name of the band is "Eurythmics", not "The Eurythmics", as has been stated numerous times by the band in interviews, and is bourne out by every single record sleeve and their website.--feline1 11:12, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

i said it was their de facto name- the is always used before their name. as do pretty much all plural band names. Joeyramoney 17:56, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

I really like Eurythmics. - eo 14:26, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

You have to think of the word Eurythmics as a study, like Physics, where one also does not say "the". Just because it's a band with plural members does NOT always mean the name is a plural (even if it ends in "s"). It's like titling a book, the author gives a title and that's that. Bands like to have the same respect shown to their chosen names. I'd guess however, that most bands would rather be addressed incorrectly than not at all...--Tednor 08:08, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

One more note one would perhaps find ocassion to say "THE Eurythmics?" (as in one and only).--Tednor 08:12, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

It's definitely "Eurythmics", no article. In interviews Lennox and Stewart themselves never use the article. It's always "When we worked together in Eurythmics", "When Eurythmics toured", etc. Same with Eels, actually. "You have to think of the word Eurythmics as a study, like Physics, where one also does not say "the"." "It's like titling a book, the author gives a title and that's that. Bands like to have the same respect shown to their chosen names." as Tednor so rightly said.--afromme 21:18, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

It's Simply Eurythmics, it's printed on their Albums. Band mates in long running bands, may find there their source of providing themself, or as an workplace and self furfilling. it's "The [band, called] Eurythmics", it's a pragmating (discourse) dispute. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.74.56.96 (talk) 12:46, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Flag

I know the Eurythmics were based in London, but I find the use of the English flag inappropriate on an article about a band whose two main members were Scottish and English respectively. I don't want to replace it with a Union Jack either. For a centralised discussion of this issue, see Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style#Flag icons - manual of style entry? --Guinnog 02:26, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Lennox refers regularly to being a Scot in interviews. And just how "English" the Kingdom of Northumbria ever was is a bit moot. I agree that putting the cross of St. George on the article is ridiculous.--feline1 10:09, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Having any flag on the article is pointless, but such ridiculous points of view on English counties have no place in an encyclopedia. You also seem to ignore the fact that Dave Stewart refers to himself as English, so......

92.11.229.68 (talk) 17:05, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

External link

I'd like to add a video interview with Dave Stewart to external links. He is speaking about the Eurythmics. Here is the interview. Ammosh11 21:32, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

First line

Eurythmics (often incorrectly referred to as "The Eurythmics")

Where's the difference. "EurHthmics" maybe? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.145.118.195 (talk) 02:46, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Worldwide Sales

A bit of a tricky issue here. The article currently says that Eurythmics have sold over 75 million records worldwide. I can well believe this and I'm sure I've seen it reiterated in various articles from reliable sources. However, Lennox's Wiki page states she has sold 80 million with Eurythmics and as a solo artist combined. However, Lennox has sold at least 15 - 20 million records by herself, which would make it over the 90 million mark as a whole. Does anybody know which is right? 79.66.46.232 (talk) 21:38, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Edit request from 76.91.200.55, 10 July 2011

The formatting of the initial paragraph of "1983–1984: Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This) and Touch" seems to be preventing the display of that paragraph.

76.91.200.55 (talk) 11:29, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

 DoneTMCk (talk) 11:42, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Expand the Sweet Dreams Section?

Perhaps an interesting aspect is band composition who AL and DS surrounded themselves with: "Eurythmics is not a 'group ' in the usual sense. Our partnership is the creative nucleus around which a variety of people will become involved depending mainly on compatibility and availability"(AL).

Band members who had featured on the Sweet Dreams tour   included 'Eddi Reader' later to have success with 'Fairground Attraction' and as a solo artist and 'Clem Burke, drummer with 'Blondie were replaced after the Sweet Dreams tour.  Clem Burke's replacement was Pete Phipps(Glitter Band)..

87.194.236.47 (talk) 01:18, 13 September 2011 (UTC)Source: Annie Lennox The Biography by Bryony Sutherland and Lucy Ellis Omnibus Press 2002 87.194.236.47 (talk) 01:18, 13 September 2011 (UTC) Paul M 13/9/2011

Other meanings of the word

'Calling themselves Eurythmics (after a style of Greek dance called "Eurhythmics" that Lennox had encountered as a child)...'

So should the main page not be for the dance? Or the exercise regime my daughter practices? Or for the music-teaching technique referenced above (Mean of The Name)?

Surely there should be a disambiguation page, linking to the other (blank) pages, and to this page, which ought to 'Eurhythmics (band)'?

Definition from answers.com (not a great source):

"n. (used with a sing. verb) The art of interpreting musical compositions by rhythmical, free-style bodily movement."

Oxford Dictionary of Dance: eurythmics

eurythmics (also Fr., eurythmie). From the Greek eurhythmia, meaning rhythmic order and graceful motion. The term was used during the Renaissance to designate unity between parts and harmonious proportion of part to whole. At the beginning of the 20th century it was used specifically to designate the movement theories and practice developed by Jaques-Dalcroze which were influenced by Delsarte and the new modern dance. Exercises in breathing, rhythmic awareness, group movements, and plastic gesture were used to explore and extend the body's response to music. These became a seminal influence in the teaching of dance and music in Europe and the US.

- http://www.answers.com/topic/eurythmics

Leegee23 (talk) 16:49, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Origin

Stating that the Eurythmics "originated" in Wagga Wagga, Australia is totally misleading and doing the reader an injustice. The Tourists happened to be in Wagga Wagga, touring, when Lennox and Stewart decided to become a duo. Calling somewhere they stayed for one possibly one night their "origin" in the infobox, above that of UK, is ridiculous. I have moved this relevant fact to the appropriate part of the article, where it can be properly placed in context. --Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 12:28, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

Discography section

1984 (For the Love of Big Brother) is first and foremost a soundtrack – unless you provide reliable sources describing it as a studio album. Even if soundtracks are technically albums recorded in studios, not everything that is recorded in a studio is necessarily a "studio album". Studio albums and soundtrack albums are distinct album types and should not be grouped together. Besides, the discography section of an artist's main article is solely intended for studio albums, therefore I removed the "Compilations and other albums" subsection. snapsnap ^(talk) 04:34, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

Pinging JPGR69. snapsnap ^(talk) 16:43, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

Agree that "compilations and other albums" should not be listed here. Apologies - I did not notice that part. However, since '1984' is an album consisting only of previously unreleased studio recordings by Eurythmics, I do not see why it should not be treated as a studio album. There are many examples of soundtrack albums listed on these sections : 'Pat Garrett' by Bob Dylan, 'Percy' by the Kinks, 'The Buddha Of Suburbia' by David Bowie, 'More' and 'Obscured By Clouds' by 'Pink Floyd', 'Flash Gordon' by Queen, albums by Paul McCartney, Lovin' Spoonful, Eric Clapton... JPGR69 (talk), 18:41, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

@JPGR69: Conversely, there are also many examples where soundtracks are not listed among studio albums in an artist's main article, such as Madonna, Whitney Houston, Daft Punk and AC/DC, to name a few. In David Bowie's case, not all of his soundtracks are listed in his main page, only the ones described as studio albums by reliable sources. Are there any reliable sources describing 1984 as Eurythmics' fourth studio album? Or as a studio album at all? AllMusic's review of 1984 states that the album "was treated as a side project for marketing purposes, not as Eurythmics' full-fledged fourth new studio album." Meanwhile, last year Grammy.com reported that the duo would re-release "all eight of their studio albums". snapsnap ^(talk) 21:41, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

@SnapSnap: Bowie is actually a good example : 'The Buddha of Suburbia' is listed in his main page because it is a studio album consisting of previously unreleased songs, recorded by Bowie for the album, whereas 'Christiane F' consists of tracks taken from previous albums, and the two other soundtracks were not solo Bowie records. The case of '1984' is similar to 'Buddha', so it makes sense to list it here. And there are sources treating it as a studio album : see [1] or [2] for instance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JPGR69 (talk • contribs) 06:46, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

@JPGR69: Ultimate Eurythmics is a fansite and therefore not a reliable source. PopMatters is valid, but only one source calling it a studio album is not enough evidence that the album was actually marketed as a studio album. Per WP:WEIGHT, we are supposed to follow what is supported by the majority of sources. In addition to the two sources I already presented (one of which explicitly states that 1984 was not treated as Eurythmics' fourth studio album), most sources seem to agree that 1984 is not part of the duo's studio chronology. For instance, AllMusic calls Be Yourself Tonight their fourth album, Grammy.com calls Revenge their fifth album, and Spin calls Peace as their eighth album. snapsnap ^(talk) 19:55, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

Why the missing H in their name?

The correct words are "rhythm", "eurhythmics". Why is it misspelled in the band's name as Eurythmics? Szalai.laci (talk) 15:46, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, Not correct. There is no misspelling. The R' is from Europe . Their band name came from "Europe Rythm". — Preceding unsigned comment added by MichaMargalit2020 (talk • contribs) 21:58, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 April 2021

They did not relocate to Chalk Farm, nor build a studio above a picture frame factory - they relocated to Crouch End and built the studio in a converted church which still exists today

https://www.thechurchstudios.com/history/

SWEET DREAMS (ARE MADE OF THIS) January 1, 1984

 By ’84 Dave Stewart and Annie Lennox of the ten newly-formed Eurythmics were renting the vast upstairs church room. Stewart and Lennox converted the space into a brand new recording studio where they completed their debut album, 1984’s Sweet Dreams, and from that moment on The Church Studios was an established marker on the London recording map. 212.36.174.180 (talk) 15:49, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:37, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

What are the discography entries in the footer about

I was wondering what the entries "Chasing Hapiness" and "Hapiness Continues" (in the footer) are about ? Is this a Eurythmics release that I missed completely? Did they work with Jonas Brothers? Or is it a mistake? 98.158.252.238 (talk) 15:05, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

"Faye Fantarrow" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Faye Fantarrow has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 September 6 § Faye Fantarrow until a consensus is reached. Edward-Woodrow :) _[talk] 22:27, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

Possible deletion of Category:Female-fronted musical groups

The category Female-fronted musical groups is up for deletion at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_August_6#Category:Female-fronted_musical_groups, and this music group article has listed it as a category. If you have an opinion either way please join the discussion. Thanks. Fyunck(click) (talk) 06:47, 7 August 2024 (UTC)