Talk:Minigame
Source
[edit]The "source" for those minigames should be the game's wikipedia page itself, which should then redict to an external source or explain the minigame. Adding a bunch of source right here doesn't make sens if it's already sourced in the game's wiki page...--Golden Specter (talk) 06:23, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
Indeed. I see no reason for that template, so I removed it. --Jv110 (talk) 04:42, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
Minigame Compilation clean up section
[edit]This section should be "removed" and the whole content should be scattered on the Minigame's list, while putting the world "compilation" in bold! Then, it should avoid any confusion and make clear that those are a compilation and not minigames inside a real game.
And while we're at it, my list section is arranged by platform Generation order (from the oldest to the newest). The Home systems are first, then comes the handheld consoles. It may be the best way of having a clean way to look up for a specific platform.
Rearrangement in alphabetical order (without any sub-section) might be really hard to read/ confusing since there is plenty of games. Rearrangement by Specific platform might be a problem for any multi-platform game.
--Golden Specter (talk) 08:09, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
I was just thinking as I was looking through that list section that it might be a good idea to fork it off into 1 or more other article(s). Since the list is incomplete and can very easily get larger, doing so now might be best. I agree that the games should be sorted by generation to cover cross-platform titles, and it may be best to give the more recent generations(6+) their own pages. Those games could then be arranged in tables with descriptions followed by tick marks for the platform they are on.
ZodiakCat (talk) 09:33, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
Correct spelling
[edit]It should be good to tell precisely the correct spelling, if it's "mini-game" or "minigame". Apparently it's minigame, but just in order to be sure... --Golden Specter (talk) 05:36, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
sentence removed
[edit]I removed my edit that I made. I can't prove it, although I remember reading something about it in an old EGM issue. If anyone can prove it, put it back in. Thunderbrand 21:20, May 4, 2005 (UTC)
- I don't remember any games. There are some games that have things to do, but I wouldn't consider them a mini-game, more like mini-activities :) K1Bond007 21:28, May 4, 2005 (UTC)
- EverQuest has a tetris-like minigame called Gems (for people who are bored)
- Commander Keen 4 (if i remember correctly) had a minigame similar to Pong which was for some reason called Tug of War (?). The series probably had a few other minigames too. --Ajshm 12:37, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
Some minigames that I find notable (I'm not throwing them straight into the article because it should not degenerate into a simple "List of Computer games with minigames"):
- The card games in Final Fantasy VIII and Final Fantasy IX tie into the main game in a unique way (they are part of the story line). FFIX also has a host of other minigames. Xenogears also has a card minigame, though it is not as important. In fact, something like that has become somwhat of a standard feature of a console RPG.
- System Shock 2 had an item called the GamePig, which is essentially a TriOptimum branded Game Boy. You can find game cartridges for it (Pong, OverWorld Zero (a simple Ultima clone), SwineKeeper (Minesweeper) etc.) and play them in the HUD of the main game.
-- grm_wnr Esc 13:28, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
- Does anybody know which is the first game containing minigames? I wonder --Grebello 15:09, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
SMB3? ChozoBoy (talk) 20:16, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
- In Everyone's a Wally (1985) one had to play Asteroids (video game) upon entering a phone booth.
"Had to play"? If it's necessary, I wouldn't call it a minigame. Although, I don't know if entering the phone booth is necessary. --Jv110 (talk) 04:34, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
contained within another game.
[edit]A minigame is not always contained within another game. Sometimes minigames are created as separat promotional download or for separat promotion CD's or as website game. One example of many: http://www.megagames.com/news/html/freegames/castleattack2.shtml as download for promotion of Stronghold 2
Tape loading games
[edit]Some tape games of the 1980s had (IIRC) minigames to entertain the player during the lengthy loading process. Drutt 11:20, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Listing all minigames!?
[edit]Can someone explain to me why this article seems to attempt to list all games that have minigames in them? That's like listing all games that make use of health bars or "some form of dialogue". A huge portion of games include minigames, from Chrono Trigger to Grand Theft Auto and from Zelda to Mass Effect. Way too many to list. It's very unencyclopedic and not something I'd be interested in when I'd look up "minigame" in an encyclopedea... Maplestrip (talk) 12:39, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
- Hi,
Good to know your opinion about listing minigames, but knowing which game had minigames is a good thing to know, and perhaps some people are even looking for a such "useless" thing. Besides, Wikipedia has not been designed only for you. It's for everyone. So what's the matter?
And if you don't like this list, just think about those lists:
- List of role-playing games by name
- List of PlayStation games
- List of Mini-Cons
- List of video games featuring Mario
See ya ;)
Golden Specter (talk) 21:01, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
But perhaps we then should have a separate article "List of video games featuring minigames"? Jalwikip (talk) 12:42, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
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Switch is not eighth generation
[edit]The Nintendo Switch is a ninth generation console. I fixed it, but noticed there's no page for the ninth generation. Accurate information is better than a missing page, right? Though, we would certainly do well to create a page for it. --Jv110 (talk) 04:33, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
- See the many many discussions on the 8th gen talk page. There isn't agreement on how to handle Switch yet. Back to this article - I think the bigger question is, why in the world is the article organized by generation like this? It's not like the idea of a mini game tends to change per generation or something. This whole article needs a rewrite. Sergecross73 msg me 05:01, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
- I saw them, and IMO, that's some really unnecessary discussion, as the Switch is indeed a ninth generation console. And I agree that the article needs a rewrite (I won't be doing it). --Jv110 (talk) 05:09, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, everyone's got their personal opinions on the generations, and that's great in a general sense, but the problem is that on Wikipedia we go by what sources say, and the problem is that most don't clearly put it in a certain generation. Continuing to randomly declare it 9th gen without any real explanation or sources isn't going to change things either. Sergecross73 msg me 05:57, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
- I saw them, and IMO, that's some really unnecessary discussion, as the Switch is indeed a ninth generation console. And I agree that the article needs a rewrite (I won't be doing it). --Jv110 (talk) 05:09, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
Minigames List
[edit]Someone just removed the list of mini-games, and I reverted it myself. While I understand that some people might not find it really useful, it's definitely worth it and it's a tremendous amount of work done here, since a couple of years now (2013)!
If some people would like to separate the article itself from the list, that's totally fine! But removing it completely? Making it unavailble for some people, just because you don't need it? Without even asking people or trying to find another solution in the talk page? No!
WhimsicalYoYo (talk) 04:28, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
- Yes! Because it's unsourced. Per WP:BURDEN, you can't just reinstate unsourced material, it's up to you to add sources. Regardless, it is a trivial collection of examples. Just because it's been up there for a WP:LONGTIME and you think WP:ITSUSEFUL is no reason to keep it. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 06:22, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
- I understand Wikipedia rules but you need to follow the normal protocol which explicitly state that, "when you find a passage in an article that is biased, inaccurate, or unsourced the best practice is to improve it if you can rather than deleting salvageable text." Instead of requesting to source the list, you completely removed it without discussing about it.
- Doing so might be only when "it may not be possible to find a published reliable source and the material therefore may not be verifiable", which is definitely not the case in this context. Moreover, your comment was just " Nope, nope, nope", which is really far from being self-explanatory.
- The fact that you think it's trivial doesn't make it trivial by itself, it's just your purely subjective opinion about it, which is totally fine, but definitely not a good reason to remove content from Wikipedia. I might think it's trivial to see a List_of_cooking_appliances, but it doesn't mean that it's really trivial for everyone, neither that I should remove it without further notice.
- At the end, I believe that it should be brought back in a list (maybe a table), i.e., a separated article, with a request to source each minigame, which will be done over time. I don't have to source everything before to bring it back, because it's a material that could be sourced and verified, indeed, not only from games, but also from magazines or (online) articles --WhimsicalYoYo (talk) 05:57, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
- Like I said, a long list of examples of minigames in video games is nothing but WP:GAMETRIVIA. That's not subjective, that is well-established Wikipedia consensus. Feel free to double-check with WP:VG. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 16:31, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
- I don't see how minigames are included in the list you provided, instead there is just a bunch of examples having no connection with minigames. It's definitely not a well-established consensus, but your own point of view about minigames, and your own subjective interpretation of what is considered as trivial in Wikipedia guideline regarding video games. Could you exactly point out how minigames are included in your list, in an objective, well-defined manner and not merely an interpretation? Might it be Gameplay concepts? You cannot define it as gameplay concepts, not technically and not even from a player's perspective. I will not go into details, but bottom line is minigames are often separated portions of games, that could be even working as standalone. I definitely don't understand how it is making them trivial whatsoever. --WhimsicalYoYo (talk) 19:23, 28 August 2020 (UTC)