Talk:Ĥ

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OK, now we got fun. The lower-case character appears incorrectly (as h-umlaut) in normal type but correctly if you put <big> tags around it:

normal: ĥ ĥ ĥ
<big>: ĥ ĥ ĥ

Phil 18:03, Dec 11, 2003 (UTC)

So it's an artifact of the way my browser is rendering the letter, and if I change the font size it makes more or less of the circumflex visible peeking out from behind the previous line. I'll get me coat. Phil 18:10, Dec 11, 2003 (UTC)

ĥ=x

I was wondering, how did they get the ĥ character to represent the X sound? I don't mind that it does, it's just that it is weird. Shouldn't it be a K with a ^ above it? That makes more sense I think. Is there something like it in Cyrillic that caused the sound to be represented this way? 76.188.26.92 22:05, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Letter X and similar symbols are used in IPA to represent sounds like h in house, not like x in x-ray. Admiral Norton 15:23, 15 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No, it's ch like in scotish "loch", not h.--88.101.76.122 19:06, 22 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I know, I know, but my point is it's not related in any way to the letter X (like Sphynx). Admiral Norton 22:19, 22 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think that 76.188.26.92's point was that it's pronounced in the same place where k is. (I think that reason for choosing ĥ was that many languages who have x sound use "ch" for it in writing and this is just a shorter way to write it.)--88.101.76.122 08:15, 23 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In Cyrillic the letter for this sound is just Х (like X "ex" in Latin script). Slavik IVANOV 03:38, 17 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This all goes back to the Greek alphabet. The original Greek alphabet used versions of the inherited Phoenician letters. Later it was found necessary to add some more letters, and X was one of these. In one version of the Greek Alphabet (the ancestor of the classical and modern Greek alphabets and also of the Cyrillic alphabet) X was used to represent the IPA /x/ sound (like the Scottish loch); in another version, which became the ancestor of the Roman alphabet, X was used to represent /ks/. --rossb 23:37, 22 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ĥ=kxh

Khx 2A0B:6204:F2F8:6D00:E1AA:BB35:6B3D:1DA7 (talk) 14:07, 3 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]