Talk:New Harmony, Indiana

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the New Harmony, Indiana article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Cities

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Cities, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of cities, towns and various other settlements on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.CitiesWikipedia:WikiProject CitiesTemplate:WikiProject CitiesWikiProject Cities articles

Indiana Historical Society Mid‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Indiana Historical Society, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Indiana Historical Society-related articles and topics on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Indiana Historical SocietyWikipedia:GLAM/Indiana Historical SocietyTemplate:WikiProject Indiana Historical SocietyIndiana Historical Society articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the importance scale.

United States: Indiana Mid‑importance

	United States portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject United States, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics relating to the United States of America on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the ongoing discussions. Template Usage Articles Requested! Become a Member Project Talk Alerts United StatesWikipedia:WikiProject United StatesTemplate:WikiProject United StatesUnited States articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.
	Indiana portal This article is supported by WikiProject Indiana (assessed as Mid-importance).

Urban studies and planning Low‑importance

	Architecture portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Urban studies and planning, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Urban studies and planning on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Urban studies and planningWikipedia:WikiProject Urban studies and planningTemplate:WikiProject Urban studies and planningUrban studies and planning articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Untitled

Just out of curiosity, how does this town usually vote in elections today? I would imagine its actually rather conservative.

How about some details on exactly what the rules for the community were.

Removed

I removed the information about David Owen and his contributions as a geologist. I don't see how this has anything to do with New Harmony

He died in New Harmony.--Dthomsen8 (talk) 18:09, 20 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Intro

So, does anybody want to write an intro to this that actually makes sense? I mean, was it a utopian experiment that failed, or what, exactly? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.89.227.190 (talk) 21:41, 24 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Needs to be broken up

This article needs to be broken up into constituent pieces. There are at least four encyclopedic articles clumped together here: (1) The Rappite community; (2) The Owenite community of 1825-27; (3) Regular coverage of an Indiana town; (4) The Institute.

I propose shattering out the Owenite community first — which actually needs to be expanded a bit and reorganized. This can be linked as a "Main Article" subpage... Scream loudly if this is an issue... Carrite (talk) 18:37, 21 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I think the Harmony Society article may already serve as the main article for the Rappite community you mention above, but it still needs cleanup and more inline citations. Since there is already a main article on the Rappites (Harmony Society), a separate article on the Owenite community makes sense, for consistency. The New Harmony page would still need a brief summary of these two important groups in the historical section, since they're key to the town's development, but the details would go into each of the main articles.Rosalina523 (talk) 19:26, 21 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

FWIW I agree with Rosalina523. LaurentianShield (talk) 20:14, 21 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 2 external links on New Harmony, Indiana. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 07:39, 6 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Coordinate error

{{geodata-check}}

The following coordinate fixes are needed for

—105.112.46.98 (talk) 16:20, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You haven't explained what error you're reporting. I've tweaked the coordinates in the article slightly to match those given in the GNIS record, but if you still think that there is an error, you'll need to give a clear explanation of what it is. Deor (talk) 18:33, 21 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

New Harmony was an utter socialist failure

The left-leaning framing of the article is wrong.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/weekly-standard/the-heaven-that-failed

-- 80.131.63.236 (talk) 02:12, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Almost all the 19th-century utopian communities were failures in the end (unless you count Oneida, which morphed into a silverware company). The failure of New Harmony would appear to be "overdetermined" (i.e. there were several things working against it, any one of which would have been enough individually to bring it down), so I'm not sure that it does much to discredit socialism in general... AnonMoos (talk) 10:31, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Another essay about New Harmony. https://lawliberty.org/the-failure-of-a-socialist-dreamer/ Nicmart (talk) 13:21, 14 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

First public library

According to the American Library Association, the location of the first public library in America is “contested.” http://www.ala.org/aboutala/1731 Nicmart (talk) 13:19, 14 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia itself does not mention New Harmony in the United States section about the history of public libraries. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_libraries_in_North_America Nicmart (talk) 13:34, 14 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

First in the United States

Any confirmation of "firsts in the US". This link states that in 1826:

"First Kindergarten in the United States at New Harmony"
"First Free School in the United States at New Harmony"
"First Co-educational School in the United States at New Harmony"
"First industrial school as part of free school at New Harmony"
First prohibition of liquor by administration". -- Otr500 (talk) 09:51, 19 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Dam at New Harmony

The site:"Discover Indiana" mentions a dam at New Harmony on the Wabash River so historically it wasn't always free flowing for 411 miles.