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Talk page signatures

If you are going to edit without logging in, you need to sign the account with the IP address using the standard method. You may add your logged in signature as a second signature. It is far to easy for someone to forge a signature. Dbiel ^(Talk) 20:31, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: the best way to add or to replace the signature is to log in and add a comment that you are the original author. Simply adding your user name while not logged in make the signature look like a forgery and there is no way to validate it. So please log in before changing an IP signature. Dbiel ^(Talk) 20:34, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I do not know what this is in reference to. Where did I edit without leaving my signature? Wattssw (talk) 22:02, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I should have left the referece http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mars_Hill_Bible_School&diff=prev&oldid=217429521 Note: it may be that your name was being forged. Edit was done by User:71.228.189.5 but signed manually with your user name Dbiel ^(Talk) 22:46, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not done by me, these kids want to add youtube videos of their class playing the guitar with a teacher and this is what has occurred. Can you clear this up?Wattssw (talk) 00:04, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I spent some time cleaning up the talk page, repairing the various forged signatures and restoring deleted content. Content from article talk pages should not be deleted but they can be archived to remove them from the active page. As far as dealing with edits for unregisted users, there is not a lot that can be done except to revert those that are not acceptable. Blocking users only happens if they are making multiple bad edits at the current point in time. If it is only a few edits a day, administrators are reluctant to block IP addresses. Dbiel ^(Talk) 01:09, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much, it would be great to archive that conversation so this isn't a mountain out of a molehill situation. I will leave the page alone, it is in a pretty finalized state.Wattssw (talk) 01:43, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Some of the edit are really to new to archive. If there are no more edits to the topic in the next 7 days, then I would say that it would be fine to go ahead and archive it. I will start the archive to make archiving easier by archiving the image warning. Dbiel ^(Talk) 02:04, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the assistance, I am simply trying to maintain the integrity of an article I created and have researched. Wattssw (talk) 02:19, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your are welcome. Keep up the good work Dbiel ^(Talk) 02:34, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Quick Question

Dbiel, I am working on the article Operation USA and use the ref cite web tag for citations. If multiple citations come from the same source, how do I indicate that without the site multiple times in the reference list? If this is not your specialty, I understand, but thought I would ask since you are helpful. Thanks, Wattssw (talk) 02:41, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

by using ref name=

I did the first one for you, since I have alway found it easier to follow an example than an explaination. See Help:Footnotes for a detailed explaination Dbiel ^(Talk) 03:23, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Great, thanks so much for the example, which I agree is easier than trying to explain, and for clearing up the image problem. Your the man (or woman)! Wattssw (talk) 23:20, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Operation-usa.jpg

I cleaned up the licensing issues with this logo Image:Operation-usa.jpg Dbiel ^(Talk) 03:36, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment request: (Start/low) Mars Hill Bible School

Mars Hill Bible SchoolWithout getting into the NPOV aspects discussed above, I will address the rest of the article. First off, the citation style is solid, and the number of in-text citations is about right. You could add a few more as appropriate. The one that brings this article down, and must be corrected is the overuse of lists. "Academics," "Athletics," "Administration" and "Trivia" are just lists and should be in prose. Fixing this will go a long way to making this article better. — Calebrw (talk) 19:42, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thanks for the input. Wattssw (talk) 22:14, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Do you suggest that I simply remove the lists from these topics? For instance, in Academics, instead of

In 2006, 50 out of 50 graduates went to college. [2]
Median composite ACT score for 2006 graduates was 25, with 42% scoring over 26.[3]
Bible is a daily class for all students and passing this class is required for graduation.
Chapel attendance is required daily for all students.

You prefer In 2006, 50 out of 50 graduates went to college. [2]The median composite ACT score for this class was 25, with 42% scoring over 26.[3] Daily chapel services and Bible class are required by all students to graduate.

Is there a discussion of this somewhere else? It seems that Athletics ought to remain as a list. I want to make it as correct as possible to agreed upon standards, but is this an agreed upon standard? I really appreciate the help on making this a better article, regards Wattssw (talk) 02:14, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Operation USA - GA review

Noticed the post you made at User talk:Gimmetrow. There is one point that confuses me. You wrote:

Hi, a coworker (I do not work for OPUSA) reviewed the page and process for GA qualification and felt it qualified and altered the discussion page.

I did the initial review but did not feel qualified to do a formal review. User:72.87.146.61 edited the GA header. Is this the coworker you are talking about? The problem with his edit is the fact that he failed to document any review of the article and based on only having made 9 edits to Wikipedia would not be qualified to do so anyway. GA reviews should be done by registered users with a history of article reviews. I notice that Gimmetrow fixed some technical syntax problems with his edit to the header but also did not make any review comments, which is why I posted the question on this talk page. After my post, I noticed that he started to review the article and made several edits, but has not take the next step of posting his review of the article. What is need is for someone qualified to post a formal review. I am not sure if the article does not does not meet GA standards; and you did fix the issue I listed in my review. Gimmetrow fixed a bunch of other little problems I did not notice. So the article is definately moving in the right direction. We just need someone else to take the time and actually review it and post the review comments. Until that is done, the article can not be considered to be GA class. Dbiel ^(Talk) 06:55, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, based on other GA nominees, I don't think anything else is required in terms of a formal review. The key is that multiple unrelated persons independently reviewed the article and, based on the policies of Wikipedia, found it acceptable. I look forward to additional reviews or suggestions on article improvement, however I don't think you should discount your own ability to determine whether or not a small, well documented article meets certain specific criteria. Also, a page can receive GA status and still be improved at a later date. I really appreciate your help on this (and Gimmetrow, whoever that is). Wattssw (talk) 14:39, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is that only ONE person, me has actually make any indication that they have reviewed the article (except for yourself, an your involvement with the article does not permit you to review it) If the others that have "reviewed" the article with post their findings on the review page, it would make a big difference. Just editing it, does not mean they have reviewed it. Dbiel ^(Talk) 18:57, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I will try to get some others to post a review to satisfy this criteria. Thanks for the assistance,Wattssw (talk) 19:25, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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