Talk:Váli

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Sigyn's page claims she's Vali's mother. Needs to be fixed on one of the page at least. JidGom 15:46, 20 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Wording of first bit.

The phrase "Vali (ON: Váli) was in Norse mythology a son of the god Odin (Old Norse: Óðinn) and the giantess Rindr." isn't good grammar as it stands. The reader gets as far as "Vali was in Norse mythology", which seems like a full sentence, then doesn't know how to interpret the "a son of the god..." correctly. I hope you like the version with just the commas. I agree about the flow. I'll help you in putting the commas in all the other articles if you want --Mike C | talk 10:25, 22 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Has been replied on Mike's talk page. Mark 11:45, 22 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed some common misconceptions, added citations, merged

Noticed the mess, cleaned up a bit. Váli errors are up there with "vikings wear horned helmets" on the common misconception scale (though perhaps a bit more on the obscure and scholarly side,) so we will see if it actually sticks.

I just cited direct translations of the actual texts for the most part. Thinking about it, it is a common misconception among even scholarly circles, but when you get this far into the academic weeds that's pretty common I suppose.

Would appreciate citations pointing towards the original texts if it gets edited: I'm fine with being wrong, but "some guy said so after the fact" is a poor rebuttal to the quotes from the closest sources we have avaliable to the original. Indirect sources are how you get horned helmets. 173.75.54.234 (talk) 17:45, 10 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I have undone your bold merger of Váli (son of Loki) into this article. Please note that the relevant texts are quoted there. Discussion should happen at Talk:Váli (son of Loki). Yngvadottir (talk) 19:02, 10 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Vali

What was Vali’s weapon and what were his powers. 72.49.12.24 (talk) 11:01, 21 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"God of eternal light"

@Bloodofox and Berig: is this bit about Vali being "god of eternal light" cited to a source reliable for this assertion? Given everything I think I know about Norse and Germanic gods, this seems like a strange statement.--Ermenrich (talk) 17:14, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I believe I would know if he were the "god of eternal light".--Berig (talk) 19:12, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You're right to be suspicious! There's nothing like that in the source material. :bloodofox: (talk) 23:55, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Let me put it this way: I was sure he wasn't "god of eternal light" in the sources, but I thought perhaps someone (maybe a modern mystic?) had interpreted him in that way that could be cited somewhere in the article.--Ermenrich (talk) 00:04, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There has definitely been some understandable discussion about Baldr and Hodr over the years along these lines but this claim was new to me. I see that Guerber's Myths of the Norsemen (1911: 165) matter-of-factly makes the "god of eternal light" claim about Váli but cites no one. It seems that after Gaiman's retellings saw big sales, publishers big and small rushed to release out any kind of approachable Norse myth overview they could find to get a piece of the pie. Squarely in the public domain and readabale enough, Guerber's book seems to have been repopularized due to this. I suspect that's why it ended up on the article. :bloodofox: (talk) 06:01, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]