Talk:DeForest Kelley
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Service overseas
[edit]De did not serve overseas as this bio suggests. His brother Casey did and was in the Battle of the Bulge. De served in Roswell NM and at Fort Roach in Culver City CA. He was seperated from the ArmyAir Corps in Colorado, along with George Reeves, the original Superman.
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DeFOREST KELLEY: A HARVEST OF MEMORIES
--unsigned by 64.122.124.242 (talk) at 19:12, 12 May 2005
- You should edit the article yourself – no-one "owns" a Wikipedia article, but it sounds as though you're trying to tell someone to edit it for you. — Lee J Haywood 20:28, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
- After reading the above, and performing some googling, I have removed this:
- Kelley was assigned to bomber duty over Europe and his awards and decorations include the European-African-Middle Eastern Campaign Medal and the World War II Victory Medal.
- We need to cite a source, otherwise, it should stay out. Func( t, c, @, ) 04:17, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
Grave / Death / Burial
[edit]I wonder if Kelley's tombstone (if he has one), has written on it "He's dead Jim". Kelley (when he was alive), jokingly suggested it ,when referring to his Star Trek character Doctor Leonard "Bones" McCoy. Mightberight/wrong 23:37, 29 October 2005 (UTC).
- That makes me think, what is written on his tombstone? Mewtroid 22:55, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
- he was cremated and ashes were scattered at sea so he wouldn't have one --71.131.33.187 04:16, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
I added his COD and burial to the article, yet I have no refs for either beyond ImDB and Find A Grave. More reputable sources are needed. 71.234.215.133 (talk) 19:40, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
"Bosom" of the Pacific Ocean? Really? What is that? -> bottom? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nernom (talk • contribs) 15:17, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Oscar tribute send-off
[edit]The Internet is full of essays and reports about and by Trekkers who were angry about DeForest Kelley not getting a send-off in the annual Oscar tribute to celebs who have died. But the strange thing is, he WAS featured; they showed his "only one of each of us" monologue from the "Star Trek" episode "Balance of Terror." Considering most people during the tribute were just flashed on the screen for a second or so, while they showed a whole monologue from Kelley, it confuses me to no end how people could have missed it. Minaker 18:18, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
Where no fan has gone before
[edit]Should the Futurama episode Where no fan has gone before be included in his appearance list? Bart-16 (talk) 08:50, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
- No, it is not a part of his filmograhpy despite him being featured as an animated character, ~unless~ they used archive footage of his voice. --unsigned 21:32, 11 August 2010 by 72.220.23.149
His character in that cartoon did not speak at all, so, no. 70.161.173.90 (talk) 23:05, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
Carolyn Kelley
[edit]To my nitpicky annoyance, someone keeps changing the year he married Carolyn to 1949. He married her on September 7th, 1945. Their marriage was talked about as lasting for 54 years, not 50. Why does this keep getting switched back to 59? Well, I'm trying to find an official source for '45 so this can stop getting switched around. --unsigned 21:32/33, 11 August 2010 by 72.220.23.149
Trekkies
[edit]I noticed Trekkies is not in his filmography. He's in it quite a bit and was maybe his last appearance in a film. I think it should be in there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.18.216.242 (talk) 21:43, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
Place of birth
[edit]I removed and replaced the reference stating that he was born in Tocca, Stephens County, Georgia. Both Memory Alpha as well as his obit at http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/obituary-deforest-kelley-1100057.html state that he was born in Atlanta Georgia. I'm sorry I don't know how to do endnotes or footnotes on Wikipedia. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:558:6002:6:61DD:2C31:5DCD:283F (talk) 04:11, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
- His birthplace was Toccoa, not Tocca. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:6C5A:5580:C9:8DF0:4B10:F577:FFE6 (talk) 16:30, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- The Old-Time Radio biography of Kelley states that his own uncle delivered him at his parents' home in Atlanta. https://www.rusc.com/old-time-radio/DeForest-Kelley.aspx?t=336 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mluklu7 (talk • contribs) 02:25, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
- Reliable sources including The New York Times, New Georgia Encyclopedia and The Independent verify Atlanta as his birthplace. Quaerens-veritatem (talk) 20:07, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
- The Old-Time Radio biography of Kelley states that his own uncle delivered him at his parents' home in Atlanta. https://www.rusc.com/old-time-radio/DeForest-Kelley.aspx?t=336 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mluklu7 (talk • contribs) 02:25, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
- His birthplace was Toccoa, not Tocca. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:6C5A:5580:C9:8DF0:4B10:F577:FFE6 (talk) 16:30, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
Was DeForest Kelley asked to play Spock? Lack of citation
[edit]Hi, in the second paragraph of the subsection "Star Trek", it is stated that Kelley was offered to play Spock prior to be offered to play McCoy. Comparing it to the respective article in en.memory-alpha.org (StarTrek wiki), I have found nothing of the sort. Anyway, that statement lacks citation. I don't know how to put a box "...lacks inline citation" there, or if I can do it at all. Maybe just remove the statement until we can be certain? Sibelius84 (talk) 10:53, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
- I will add some citation for this. Sibelius84 (talk) 10:56, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
Early Life
[edit]The article said: "As a child, he often played outside for hours at a time." In what way is that especially noteworthy (for kids at that time, I mean)? I took the sentence out. --BjKa (talk) 09:50, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
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Dated Reference?
[edit]The reference of $50,000 in 1978 dollars is "$192,000 today" -- is that in 2019, US Dollars? Gprobins (talk) 17:45, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
What does this mean
[edit]Kelley was delivered by his uncle at his parents' home in Toccoa, Georgia, the son of Clora (née Casey) and Ernest David Kelley, who was a Baptist minister.[2][3] Kelley was named after pioneering electronics engineer Lee de Forest. He later named his Star Trek character's father "David" after his own father. Kelley had an older brother, Ernest Casey Kelley.[4] Kelley was immersed in his father's mission (church) in Conyers, Georgia, and told his father that failure would mean "wreck and ruin".[5]
We've gone from him being delivered to him (or possibly his older brother?) being immersed in his father's mission (church) and him telling his father that some kind of unspecified failure would mean wreck and ruin. Frankly, this makes little to no sense. Blocsrich (talk) 09:43, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
Scoring a lead
[edit]FlightTime reverted an edit by Masato.harada regarding Masato.harada deleting the use of “scored the lead” in the sentence, “He made his film debut in New Moon (1940), and nearly scored the lead of This Gun for Hire…” (emphasis supplied). Masato.harada substituted “nearly secured the lead role in” for “scored the lead of”, which seems appropriate, and I was surprised by FlightTime’s revert. Is there a FlightTime imposter? In any event, “scoring a lead” is not related to performers, but concerns sales organizations quantifying consumer interest or enquiry. See, Lead scoring and Lead generation. Please let me know if I’m missing something. Quaerens-veritatem (talk) 19:03, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
Alzheimers?
[edit]A few years ago a handwritten letter from William Shatner went up for auction, where he shared his memories of DF. In the letter he says DF and DF's wife both got Alzheimer's about the same time. If confirmable it seems like this should be in the article. 2600:1700:46B0:7200:C96B:6DC6:2899:4A54 (talk) 00:30, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
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