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Dispute over a new section

Hi,

I added the following paragraph under the Views section of this article. Calling hundreds of millions of people living in the Middle East insects is a significant part of a journalist's viewpoint, and it is deserved to be known, as his view on Iran or China have been recorded on this very page.

User @Hemiauchenia deleted my addition and noted that "Doesn't seem that notable honestly", which I disagree given the significance of this opinion. I reverted it back, but then the same user added a page on my Talk page that this topic is contentious as it is related to the Arab–Israeli conflict and that I should not edit the page anymore because I do not have 500 edits so far.

I do not have much experience in conflict resolution over Wikipedia, but it seems that explaining the situation on the Talk page is the first step to start it. Hence, my post here. I'd like to get the opinion of more experienced editors on this matter.

I would like to note that this opinion has already attracted a lot of attention. Some of them have been collected here: [Outrage over Bigotry, Islamophobia in Wall Street Journal & New York Times].

Thank you!

The Middle East as the Animal Kingdom

In an opinion piece published at New York Times on Feb 2, 2024, he compared the Middle East as a jungle and many of the Middle Easterns to various types of insects [1]. He compared Iran to a recently discovered species of parasitoid wasp, and Yemen, Syria, and Iraq as caterpillars. Netanyahu is the sifaka lemur, which he observed in Madagascar, and the US as an old lion that is still the king of the Middle East Jungle. SoloGen (talk) 03:26, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thomas Friedman is a commentator whos profession it is to express opinions. We can't include references to every column he has ever written, and it doesn't make sense to give this single post its own subheading. It might be worth including under the Iran subheading, as the post does seem to have attracted some external comment e.g. [2], but meh. Hemiauchenia (talk) 03:35, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It turns out the wasp article was in the article already, but was under the Israel section. I've moved it to the Iran section. As it's already in the article and I don't object to it being there I think dispute is resolved. Hemiauchenia (talk) 03:40, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Views - Israel

Why is the section that is dedicated to Friedman’s views on Israel start with criticism on his views? No other section of his views have that beginning. Barakpick (talk) 13:27, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Neutrality

The article seems overly negative. For example, the paragraph about Putin makes him look like an inexcusable Putin fan. But when you look at the source, you realize that it's from 2001, at the very beginning of Putin's mandate when his authoritarian tendency was much less manifest, and that since then Friedman's account of Putin has clearly been negative. And I'm far from having verified everything from the source, it's just one paragraph that I investigated because it looked surprising. The rest of the "Criticism" is mostly gratuitous shaming, and the section on Israel is mostly criticism. As per WP:BLP, a lot of this content can be removed. Alenoach (talk) 03:27, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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