Talk:Leamington Spa railway station

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Chronology

The Great Western station (opened 1852), on the Birmingham & Oxford Junction route from Birmingham to Fenny Compton, where it joined the Oxford & Rugby (which was never completed north of Fenny Compton), was not the first in Leamington.

The London & Birmingham completed its branch from Coventry, with a terminus on Rugby Road, Milverton, in 1844. This line was later extended to Leamington (Avenue) [I don't have the date to hand at present, but the newly formed LNWR sought leave to extend the line in 1846]. A new Milverton station was built where the line crossed Warwick New Road after completion of the extension.

The Rugby & Leamington Railway (aka the Rugby, Leamington & Warwick) was opened to traffic on 1 March 1851 [to be established: whether Milverton - Leamington extension same date, or earlier].

Leamington has thus had four railway stations within its current boundaries. The present building is on the site of the last, not the first, Leamington station.

Will add more of this information to the article once I have confirmed dating for the LNWR extension. (update) -- Picapica 07:41, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)

OK, I have the low-down now:

Milverton (1st) (and originally named "Leamington") 1844
Leamington GWR 1852 (rebuilt 1937-39)
Leamington Avenue 1854 [even though the Milverton - Rugby line opened 1851] (rebuilt 1860)
Milverton (2nd) 1883.

My previous assumption about the present station site being the last of the four Leamington stations was therefore wrong: it was the second. Hope to have time to write all this up tomorrow.

To do

[1] Incorporate info above.

[2] Update operators / service patterns (several recent changes). -- Picapica 19:00, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Phew. Turned out to be more of a re-write than a "copyedit"! Still, all done now (I hope) - time for a cup of tea... -- Picapica 17:46, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)

A question

Didn't some of the services on the Leamington-Weedon line continue to Northampton, by reversing at Blisworth, I seem to recall that some did. Also I think passenger services on the Weedon line ceased at about the same time as the Rugby service in about c 1958/9?,I know someone who remembers travelling to Daventry on that line, I'll have to look it up. G-Man 19:09, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)

You are right about the Northampton services (I need to check dates though). Leamington-Weedon closed in 1958, Leamington-Rugby in 1959 (so both closures were pre-Beeching, in fact). I remember travelling Leamington - Rugby in 1960 (and getting chucked off Rugby station -- as "trainspotters" regularly were in those days!) and having to travel via Coventry: we were, alas, just a year too late for the direct line. -- Picapica 11:15, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Style

When I found it, I concluded this was a wonderfully clear, well-written and informative article. However, there were are few small "style" errors, which I felt I had to do something about! These included:

Having external links as section headers (and in the first four words of the article).
A bit of POV speculation.
Some non-encyclopedic style in places, such as in "What's in a name" and the history of Milverton's multitude of names.
Perhaps a slight overuse of exclamation marks!

I've rewritten parts in what I (IMHO) think is a more suitably encylcopaedic style. I hope I haven;t spoilt what was otherwise a really nice article. --RFBailey 22:18, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Old stations

I did not know about them, is their anything to left to see? AJUK ^Talk!! 00:54, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Split

Anyone think that Avenue and Milverton stations should be split out of this and put into their own article(s)? Although if they were, I'm not sure whether they should have separate articles, or for the sake of simplicity be put in the same article. Any thoughts? G-13114 (talk) 00:00, 15 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Warwick Milverton should definitely be a separate article, it's some distance off towards Kenilworth.

Leamington Spa Avenue is one of those odd cases where two stations were built by rival companies very close together, and under British Railways were placed under common management, leading to them being treated as the same station for certain purposes. Other examples included Banbury (General and Merton Street); Oxford (General and Rewley Road); Reading (General and Southern); and for each of these three pairs we have two separate articles, so precedent is for two articles here also. On the other hand Wrexham has a single article for adjacent stations (General and Exchange).

I think that Lamberhurst (talk · contribs) was considering a WP:SPLIT at some point. --Redrose64 (talk) 00:41, 15 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I would fully support a split, particularly for Milverton which was on the Kenilworth branch as Redrose indicates. I put an image of Avenue on Commons and have some books which could be used for the article. In principle, I would say that each station deserves its own article except in those cases where the station is rebuilt on a slightly different site. This issue may well arise soon for Rochester. Lamberhurst (talk) 08:43, 15 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Commentary

I've reverted these five edits, because they appear to be commentary on factual accuracy, and as such belong here, not on the article. --Redrose64 (talk) 12:44, 8 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Eastnor Terrace was demolished to make way for the original GWR station in 1852, not the new one at Milverton in the 1880s.

The link between the two railways in Leamington existed by 1858 when used by Queen Victoria's train. It was to the west of the two Leamington stations and thus allowed trains from the Coventry / Kenilworth direction to enter the GWR station, not those from Rugby. Similarly, GWR trains from the south could pass onto the LNWR line to Coventry. --Robin D Leach (talk) 14:33, 8 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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