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A few MNAs from the Quebec general election, 2007 don't have articles yet. You can find them by looking for redlinks at 37th National Assembly of Quebec. A list used to be posted here, but is just a duplicate. -- P.T. Aufrette (talk) 00:55, 3 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The following comment dates from when the list was still posted here:

I have taken the liberty of replacing Daniel Bernard (the late French ambassador) with Daniel Bernard (politician) in the above list, as I assume the ambassador is not who was intended. Thank you. — the Sidhekin (talk) 18:03, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Pagename?

Why was this page moved to the French name? Is there a general consensus that Legislures be called by their native names? 68.39.174.238 01:47, 1 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The National Assembly uses "National Assembly of Quebec" in English, so there is no reason for the English version of Wikipedia to use the French name. See the National Assembly of Quebec website. I have moved the page back. Ground Zero | t 04:27, 1 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

When the page was moved unilaterally on Feb. 20, I left a message on the editor's talk page asking why. Never got a response. Skeezix1000 11:48, 1 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Article not centered properly

This article does not open up well. Peter Horn 01:13, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Legislative assembly.

If we go according to the French Language Charter, or bill 101 as it is also called, there is no official English name to anything that concerns the Québec Government. So "English Canada" which includes many english people in Québec can actually call it what ever they want. Also no matter what the official name of the assembly is, it is still a legislative assembly. --Mrboire (talk) 14:57, 6 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The issue of use in English Canada is a red herring. Nor is there any question that the National Assembly is a legislative assembly (in the lower-case, generic & common sense, not as a proper noun) - I don't think anyone disputes that the National Assembly is a legislative assembly. The issue is whether or not the term "Legislative Assembly of Quebec" remains in current use, in English or French, notwithstanding the 1968 name change.

In my opinion, the entire sentence should be deleted, as the reference in the one source (the Speaker of the House of Commons website) is insufficient to show that the term remains in any kind of current usage (a random example does not provide evidence of common usage - it only shows that the term has been used once, possibly in error). Moreover, the Speaker's site also incorrectly refers to the Houses of Assembly of Nova Scotia and Newfoundland & Labrador as "Legislative Assemblies", leading me to believe that the source is either not reliable, or it mistakenly uses capital letters when the intent was to use the generic, lower-case, "legislative assembly" to refer to all of the provincial legislatures, regardless of their individual proper names. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 16:05, 6 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bearcat has changed it to "...though the original appellation is also occasionally still used". Given that the Speaker's website gets the names wrong for three of the provincial assemblies, I'm less inclined to believe that the usage of the term on this site is evidence of the occasional use of a former name, and perhaps more inclined to believe that the website writer was either very sloppy or had intended to use the term in the generic sense. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 17:18, 6 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Believe me, I agree, but until this discussion is actually resolved, "occasionally still used" at least has the benefit of being closer to reality than the previous claim was, because it's certainly not in any sort of common or standard use. We can't let a complete falsehood stand in the article just because a discussion about it is ongoing, obviously. Bearcat (talk) 17:33, 6 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Absolutely I agree, and well said. I'm sorry if it sounded like I didn't think your edit was a step in the right direction. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 17:44, 6 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Personaly I don't beleive that the sentence should be in the paragraph, I was just trying to stop the back and forth undoing of the two parties involved. Yes the National Assembly is a legislative assembly, and yes Nova Scotia and Newfoundland and labrador have legislative assemblies, but are they refered to as the "Legislative Assembly" of X is the question here. I do not know, I have not seen either way. The intro should probably read "NA of Q is the legislative body or assembly ..." I believe that people who do not have full mastery of the language should not edit the encyclopedia, intentions might be honorable but it causes more confusion.--Mrboire (talk) 18:30, 6 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I will remove the sentence. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 13:35, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with the removing of this sentence. The name of the legislative assembly of Quebec is National Assembly of Quebec. These subtleties are important. Sincerely, Jimmy Lavoie^talk 20:40, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

To me the question is the word "national" which does not mean the exact same thing in English and in French. I would like to know if there is an official English version of "assemblee nationale" - a reference to that or an acknowledgement that this is unofficial but standard usage by the Assembly itself would save it from being original research. Richardson mcphillips (talk) 15:02, 19 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Renaming

I removed the following sentence, which had no source and which is furthermore completely inaccurate: "The renaming was a view by separatists has a way to promote sovereignty for the province."

The renaming was proposed, undertaken and ratified by a Federalist government. The Premier of the day, Jean-Jacques Bertrand was an overt Federalist. Moreover, there was not a single PQ member in the Assembly at the time, since the party would not even exist until later that year.

A Wikipedia article is no place for this type of speculation.

And while I was at it, I also deleted this piece of nonsense:

"The Quebecian Broadcasting was formerly the maslow of Quebec's legislature and was then called the Housings of Nation Leg ;standing for Legislation. In 1966, the lower house, the Legislative Council, was demolished by angry citizens and the remaining house was renamed."

Seriously, some people need to get a life.184.163.86.47 (talk) 01:40, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Assemblé nationale du Québec (2000). What is the National Assembly?, Québec: Assemblée nationale, 58 p. (ISBN 2-550-30165-X)

Is this:

Assemblé nationale du Québec (2000). What is the National Assembly?, Québec: Assemblée nationale, 58 p. (ISBN 2-550-30165-X)

or

Assemblée nationale du Québec (2000). What is the National Assembly?, Québec: Assemblée nationale, 58 p. (ISBN 2-550-30165-X) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.199.97.30 (talk) 17:53, 2 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Full name

Following up on the discussion of the full name of the Assemblée, the Quebec statute uses both "Assemblée nationale" and "Assemblée nationale du Québec." The name of the Act is "Loi sur L’Assemblée nationale", but the implementation clause uses "Assemblée nationale du Québec": "Sa Majesté, de l’avis et du consentement de l’Assemblée nationale du Québec, décrète ce qui suit:". The Act therefore is not determinative. The "Règlement et autres Règles de procédure" (downloadable here), one of the key documents for the Assembly, also uses both terms: "Assemblée nationale du Québec" at the top of the cover, and "Assemblée nationale" thereafter. Similarly, the National Assembly on its webpages uses "Assemblée nationale du Québec" on the headers, and then "Assemblée nationale" in the text. It seems to me that we should follow that same style: since the Assemblée uses the "Assemblée nationale du Québec" at the beginning of its documents, and "Assemblée nationale" thereafter, we should do the same for this article. However, if it is determined that the official name is "Assemblée nationale", then the same style should be used in English, to match the French style, and the article would have to be re-named: "National Assembly (Quebec)". Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 15:45, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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